Build 84

Submitted by Rob on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 16:22

Hi everyone. Build 84 is live now:

Different stat caps for different character classes
HPGen and MPGen are now Vitality and Wisdom
SPD now governs only movement
New DEX stat governs fire rate
Add dex boosting rings and potions
Items can now take you over the stat cap
Removing items at the stat cap no longer permanently removes points
Fix lava damage bug
Lava damage now penetrates DEF

Please post with bug reports. We are particularly interested in the balance effects of the new per-class stat caps.

Thanks for playing!
Rob

Realm of the Mad God

Comments

Submitted by Trauma on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 16:34.

Already logged in

"Already logged in" bug while trying to enter abyss. complete with a 117-second wait time.

Submitted by derp on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 16:51.

DEF

What does lava damage penetrates defense mean?

Submitted by coolguy on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 17:05.

Lava penetrating Defense

Derp, I assume it means that it deals a set amount of damage, ignoring the DEF level of your character. Meaning, it is not taken into the equation, thus having no effect on the actual damage dealt.

Submitted by derp on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 17:19.

Neat

That was my first guess. Second guess was that it did damage to defense before doing damage to HP. But that's not really what penetrate means.

Submitted by Bear on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 17:35.

wow

this is different, very different. Not sure if i like any of it to be honest, but i'll give it a chance.

Is there any chance you can tell us the new max stats for each class?

Submitted by Glass_ on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 17:45.

"Is there any chance you can

"Is there any chance you can tell us the new max stats for each class?"

Yes, this would be good and help people choose which class they want.

I like the changes actually, it gives more variation of classes.

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Submitted by Vince on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 17:45.

Great idea to put different stat caps on different classes. Puts a clearer line between classes and makes multiple classes interesting to play, instead of just one or two.
It's also good that the gods aren't so easily farmed anymore, 'gods' were a bit of an understatement in 83

Speed feels a bit useless, though..

Submitted by Boo on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 18:08.

interesting. have to rethink

interesting. have to rethink classes now.

Submitted by X on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 20:22.

lol, Dex

I just looked it up.

For anyone that doesn't already have full Dex, I feel very sorry for you.

Submitted by Daww on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 20:33.

Why is that? Is it nigh

Why is that? Is it nigh impossible to get now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzTAdvtc4ik

Submitted by Zuboki on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 22:24.

I did find one dex potion in Sprite World...

Not sure if they drop outside, though- fighting gods is a slow slow ordeal for me.

Submitted by X on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 22:30.

Here's how it is:

There are only two monsters in the entire game that drop dex potions.
One is in the Abyss.
Both have 2% drop rates.

There is a greater dex ring available though... In the Abyss with a 2% drop rate.

Submitted by Zuboki on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 22:40.

Oh man what the hell

I was all excited about this update, getting ready to see my wizard finally shine, and then I run into this. Ah well. Guess I better get my eyes used to sprite world...

Although, this is a good point to raise in the Archer vs Rogue debacle. The only folks who get obscenely high dex will be the ones who can and do survive abyss. I guess dex pots are the new "Most valuable item in the game", and abyss will lose the cooperation aspect that made it so much fun and just become another everyone runs to grab the loot dungeon.

Submitted by X on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 23:14.

I doubt that.

The Abyss is a dungeon that even the maxed stat players were reluctant to go. Now with the current limits on stats, going alone is almost suicide for the unskilled.

Dex pots/rings aren't dropped by just any Abyss monster, they're dropped by THE abyss monster: Brutes of the Abyss. They'll ace any non-knight player in a few hits, no matter how high their defense is.

And knights trying to solo them, even with the maximum 87 armor, will have trouble. Since their lower speed and dex means they'll take a lot more hits. And their armor no longer protects them from lava, so a few seconds in the lava will be brutal.

Then let's not forget that the two dungeons are dropped only by the two toughest gods out there.

Submitted by Zuboki on Fri, 03/05/2010 - 03:26.

Not quite what I mean

My point is that when you assemble a fitting party to explore the Abyss, of perhaps 5 level 15-20's with at least 1 healer, you used to stay together and go through the dungeon as a tight team, never going into mad loot grab mode until possibly the very end with Malphas. Now, everyone will scramble for the brutes' drops, and if it's a dex potion, you'll have 4 rather annoyed people to one happy one. It's like the undead lair with hp gens, only you can't solo it (yes I know you solo'd it but quiet you). I'm not just postulizing this- I've seen it happen twice tonight for the greater rings. Also, there's a lot of risk involved, as you said, and not many people are willing to go there in the first place. Hell, tonight I asked one player who had his dex maxed because of the transition if he wanted to join us, and he simply said "why bother?"

I do like the idea of the demons dropping stat potions rarely, even if it does involve a mini-loot grab battle. I just hate the exclusivity of specifically dex potions so that you either have to put up with loot-grabbing battles or you have to go to sprite world (which is rare and a pain on the eyes).

If Medusae and Djinn dropped Dex potions instead of speed or if there was a level 20 exp loop as suggested in another topic that rewards players with a free point to spend in any stat, it'd be different. But as it is now now, I really don't like jumping through all those hoops.

Submitted by Daww on Fri, 03/05/2010 - 14:13.

Hmm... It looks like pretty

Hmm... It looks like pretty soon, all the great items will be Abyss-exclusive. I already miss the days when you could speed up your attack noticeably with two Greater Speed rings.